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psalms 139 date-rape baby-God loves da babe

wat wood u do if you were date rape
or raped and got pregnent?

what do you think is the Christian out look on this subject?

???

also how do guys feel about this?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2004 4:41 pm Reply to topic Reply with quote
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i would like to think GOD would give me the strength to continue with the pregnancy... and give David the strength to love the baby as his own...
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Tough question. Definitely a tough question. I think for me personally, I would have the baby, but then comes the harder decision. After that I would speak with my parents and see if they would be willing to take my baby as their own child to raise or else I would have to make the tough choice to give the baby up for adoption. I would want to ensure that my child would have a fair chance at the world with a good, functional family. Two parents and lots of love. I wouldn't be able to keep him/her for myself, though.

On the other hand, I could understand a girl's choice for abortion... if it is absolutely necissary. My view on this gets kind of confusing though. I think that if the mother is capable of having the baby, then she should. Sure, there'll be quite a few problems, but I think that the life of another would be worth the suffering you would have. I think there's just a certain maturity level that has to be reached before this decision can be fairly made though.. Yeah. It's a tough choice. If it won't absolutely ruin your life, I think you should at least give the kid a chance at their life.
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If I was in that position, I could not bring myself to have an abortion. Rape is not something that can be corrected--it's a horrible, horrible thing, and it's awful that it happens...but part of trying to be in control of your life after the accident is trying to be responsible and mature. If I got pregnant as a result of rape, I would have the baby--but I don't know if I could bring myself to raise it or have my parents raise it (it would definitely be a huge financial strain), so I would probably opt to have it adopted. Don't get me wrong, I would love the baby with all my heart; but under such circumstances, it's difficult. What do you say to your teenage son or daughter when they're wondering who their father is? "Oh, he's a jerk and he skipped town?" Then what if they ask why he doesn't pay child support? It would be too painful...for both parties involved.

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personlly, i wood pray about it, i wood never get an abortiaon.

now with keeping the baby and adoptited...
has good and bad points....

4 me there r things 2 explore on this and there r things that cood damage the child in one way or another.

i wood want the child to know God.
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Teslus_Scimitari wrote:
If I was in that position, I could not bring myself to have an abortion. Rape is not something that can be corrected--it's a horrible, horrible thing, and it's awful that it happens...but part of trying to be in control of your life after the accident is trying to be responsible and mature. If I got pregnant as a result of rape, I would have the baby--but I don't know if I could bring myself to raise it or have my parents raise it (it would definitely be a huge financial strain), so I would probably opt to have it adopted. Don't get me wrong, I would love the baby with all my heart; but under such circumstances, it's difficult. What do you say to your teenage son or daughter when they're wondering who their father is? "Oh, he's a jerk and he skipped town?" Then what if they ask why he doesn't pay child support? It would be too painful...for both parties involved.


Well said...

Obviously, rape is one of the most horrible things there is. But it is. When something horrible like this happens, the options are never great.

There's a side of me that quickly responds "two wrongs don't make a right!" And I TOTALLY agree with the above point about being responsible and loving toward the child. And if anyone is going to get killed here, it seems to ME it should be the JERK who did this - the guilty one, not the baby that resulted - the innocent one. But, okay I'm a 16 year old guy. I honestly don't claim to totally understand all the emotions and stuff that would be involved, and, if that mother felt an abortion was the right, loving, responsible thing to do, I would try to be understanding.

MY view. What's YOURS?

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*life is a gift* the earlist abortion you can get is . . . "the morning after pill or emergery pill"


ps btw - wat happens if the father of the baby is not right in the head - and doesnt no the differences of wrong and right? (soz i dont no how else to put it?)

or if the mum raped the father?

just a thought i had when reading the last post above....
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Ellie,

It's a rarity that you see a woman raping/molesting (whatever other word there is) a man, but, with instances like Mary-Kaye Letourneau, it was mutual (though twelve-year-olds can't give legal consent). I'd imagine if the woman was the one doing the raping, she'd be somewhat prepared. I say, if you're the one who goes out and hurts someone, resulting in your pregnancy, you need to suck it up, be a woman, and make the right choice.

If a man raped the woman and wasn't right in the head...it could make a difference in his sentencing, should he be caught. Seems "insanity" is the best way to avoid harsh jail time nowadays.

Thanks for complimenting my post, Josiah. I see rape, though horrible thing as it is, a way that someone can prove themselves. You can either throw yourself in a ditch and wail and say, "I was raped and had an abortion to make everything right," to be the victim, or you can say: "I was raped, I carried the baby to term, and I gave it up for adoption to give it a better life than I could give it."

Rape is definitely devastating, and I'm sure a lot of psychological changes occur as a result of it. Women have abortions as a result of rape because they see no other way out, or they couldn't live with the possible shame of being an unmarried woman carrying a child. I still think, however, that abortion is very devastating, and like Josiah said, it should be the sicko who did it who should suffer. Not the baby that also came from you!

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the baby is ther most inncocent one.
iver never been in any of these situations.

some of my friends have icon_sad.gif
(child abuse - so no pregnancies)
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That's an interesting question... From what I know, it is not common to get pregnant from rape, because your body is in such suock. but it is still possible all the same. I don't really have experience with such things. A friend of mine was raped repeatedly as a child by a male babysitter, but because she was so young (7) a pregnancy was not possible. Does anyone know someone who this has happened to (rape--pregnancy)? If so, how did they handle it?

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my parents have told me that if that EVER happend to me, they would help with the baby. it's tough to say b/c i don't understand the situation, but... i love kids. it would be life changing, but i think i would enjoy having a kid. don't get me wrong... i'm definately not having one b4 my time! adoption would be an option, but i don't think i like that option. since my parents said they would be willing to help, it would be ok. i would like to think i could raise the child, with help from my parents of course. my parents have even said that if it was MY mistake, they would still help out. they might be mad at me, but they WOULD NOT let their grandchild live a bad life. icon_smile1.gif i like the way they think! abortion is DEFINATELY NOT an option.

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personaly i would ask god what to do. because of my beliefs as a christian i would never have an abortion, because that baby has a soul and god already has a plan for that child. its a child of god's

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[b]This topic is very interesting.

But i do have to say to all that i know of a few people who have been raped and then got pregnant. Like one of you guys said its rare that someone getting raped gets pregnant b/cuz of shock but i do know that one of the people i know who got pregnant, their child came out handicapped others that i know lost their child (miscarriage). I work in the hospital and as a Youth Leader see alot of these cases and its sad. But when the VICTIM opens their mouth to speak with God its incredible what happens in their life. I do agree in having the child i wouldn't get an abortion b/cuz yes that child has a soul..i'm not anyone to take someone's life on God can. The only thing that you can do if your the victim is seek God and counseling from your pastor. Intense Prayer is needed! God bless you all...
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hay guys,
if I were raped, I would definetly give up my child for adoption. I personally know that adoption is a beautiful thing-I was adopted and saved from abortion.,
Now I am one of those huge PROLIFE people, but we are very peaceful-NO VIOLENCE!
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hay guys,
if I were raped, I would definetly give up my child for adoption. I personally know that adoption is a beautiful thing-I was adopted and saved from abortion.,
Now I am one of those huge PROLIFE people, but we are very peaceful-NO VIOLENCE!
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Hey pplz,

I read this thread with all the "if I was raped..."

I was raped in 2003 by my then BF at the age of 17 and it changed my life , had i actually fallen pregnant I wouldn't have kept the baby and would have probably given it up for adoption because why should a child have to pay for the mistakes their father made.

The hardest thing about keeping the child would be going thru the emotions and having a product of the rape as a living human being that is totally dependent on you. To have a child grow up and know that they were conceived not out of love but out of fear and hatred and have them think that they were never really wanted... I couldn't do that to my child

I am against abortion because I think a lot of people don't think it thru at all and just use it as another form of birth control when they forget to use a condom but in the case of rape it is something an individual must chose for themselves with the help of God.



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I know someone who was raped: she kept the baby. She looks at it in a positive light, and loves the child very much.

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as god has put you on the earth he can easly take you fooo but that is off topic in a date rape the one that ends up un pure is the person who is the raper now some may say well what about the girl if she did all she could not to be raped then she is still in a sence pure
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