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What do you guys think the word 'Modesty' means when it comes to the way peoples behaviour and appearance? Does it apply now?
I think this is more towards the girls, but anyone is welcome to give their opinion.
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 1:56 pm |
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Ok, if wasn't clear, the question is asking whether people - especially girls - should be more 'modest' in the way they act and dress.
I.E. Should girls watch the way they dress because it might effect others around them?
Will dressing one way cause a guy unnecessary temptation? Is it your problem or the guy's?
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 3:12 pm |
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I think the nails are gonna come out on this one so I think I'll just sit back and enjoy the responses to this question.
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| Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 3:29 pm |
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| agazoom wrote: | I think the nails are gonna come out on this one so I think I'll just sit back and enjoy the responses to this question.
HOOHAA!! |
That's what I thought too when I first posted it, but then no one replied : : |
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 5:33 pm |
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| Mikalee wrote: |
Should girls watch the way they dress because it might effect others around them?
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ok, i think that girls, or anybody should watch the way they dress. Sometines, the latest fashions are not wat u would call "appropriate."
if u know wat i mean.
In church for instance.. i think that everyone should be dressed relatively modest cus its not a regular place we're goin to.. its like God's home.
Also, especially for teens, sometimes younger kids look up to us, and we shouldnt act or dress in a way where it would teach them something wrong.
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| Mikalee wrote: | | Will dressing one way cause a guy unnecessary temptation? Is it your problem or the guy's? |
well... in order to answer this question we need both guy and girl point of views.. for example.. im not a guy i wouldnt know what would cause a guy 'unnecessary temptation'.  |
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 7:39 pm |
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I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. [1 Timothy 2:9-10]
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 11:28 pm |
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| tara_angel42 wrote: | I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. [1 Timothy 2:9-10]
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Do you think it applies today? Or is it more like something that was applicable in those days, but now it's different? (Think about it practically)
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| Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 11:30 pm |
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| tara_angel42 wrote: | | Mikalee wrote: | | Will dressing one way cause a guy unnecessary temptation? Is it your problem or the guy's? |
well... in order to answer this question we need both guy and girl point of views.. for example.. im not a guy i wouldnt know what would cause a guy 'unnecessary temptation'. |
Yes, you're right, you wouldn't know exactly what causes temptation and what doesn't. And, no one can give you the answer either, because it's different for every guy.
Some guys might have 'lustful' thoughts by seeing a girls with a short skirt, other guys might have those thoughts by seeing a girls with tight or open top...etc.
No simple answer. |
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Come on! Unnecessary temptation: "The more skin the better/The more revealing the better." Provided the woman is attractive, of course. Remember, many people don't go to the beach for the view of the water, but they do go for the "view." The idea is to not lead someone astray, because the thought of lust, is just at wrong as adultry.
There is absolutely no reason to believe that the Bible's teaching of modesty does not apply today. What may be a better question is, what exactly is immodest. I've been told before that shorts are immodest. Never crossed my mind before. I'm still sort of perplexed... |
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| I think the girls espiacially should realy watch the way they dress...because...there are guys today that are really umm...you knoe wut I mean...anyways, espeacially at church...because this is probably not what God wants... |
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I think it all has to do with the attitude and the environment:
If you go to somewhere like Brazil where G-strings are commonplace in the streets, you can't dictate to people that they shouldn't wear G-Strings.
But if someone wore a G-string in the street, they'd have guys ogling them from 10 miles away.
There's a difference in wearing clothing due to the environment and whether it's socially common, or whether you're just wearing it to show off your hot bod. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 2:48 pm |
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| agazoom wrote: | | There's a difference in wearing clothing due to the environment and whether it's socially common, or whether you're just wearing it to show off your hot bod. |
Just because something is socially acceptable doesn't mean it doesn't fit into the immodest category. Particular extremes are the nude beaches of Europe, and the g-strings you talk about. You would be hard pressed to really say those are modest attitudes.
Remember, people will fall away from God in the last days, so social acceptance is not a good factor to judge acceptability.
Also, on some level, I find it hard to believe that nude beaches and g-strings have no sexual nature to them. Personally, I feel it's the sexual nature that's common. Thus, the g-strings and nude beaches are common. And the sexual nature is exactly the kind of thing the Bible is trying to prevent. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 2:58 pm |
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I basically agree with Zag. Though, I do believe that things aren't necessarily black and white either.
For example, the shorts thing...that seems pretty dumb to me (I'm not talking about shorts that leave little to the imagination). I think there are definitely limits, but what the limits are, aren't exactly clear. Although, I think if you are very honest with yourself, you'd probably know if how you present yourself will be taken a certain way or not (usually it IS the goal to get that 'kind of attention'). |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 2:44 pm |
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I'd really have to agree with everything that's been stated so far, even though it was a while ago...
I heard someone say once that if a young man is trying to keep his mind clean and a young lady walks in wearing something that causes him to have to control his thoughts, at the very least, isn't that inconsiderate?
Someone mentioned that what is appropriate isn't really clearly defined, but it is in my church. Here's a blurb from a tiny book of guidelines called 'For the Strength of the Youth' on this topic.
Immodest clothing includes short shorts and skirts, tight clothing, shirts that do not cover the stomach, and other revealing attire. Young women should wear clothing that covers the shoulder and avoid clothing that is low-cut in the front or the back or revealing in any other manner. Young men should also maintain modesty in their appearance. All should avoid extremes in clothing, appearance, and hairstyle. Always be neat and clean and avoid being sloppy or inappropriately casual in dress, grooming, and manners. Ask yourself, “Would I feel comfortable with my appearance if I were in the Lord’s presence?” |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 10:09 pm |
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Personally, I don't think anyone can set rules. Rules make faith into religion...God hates religion!
I think if everyone just remembered to represent themselves in a way that will not cause others to stumble, that's all you need. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 11:01 pm |
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You think God hates? And here I thought God was love.
See, I think a lot of times God gives us certain rules not because the rules are nessisarily the most important thing, but because obeying them is. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:11 am |
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| Quote: | You think God hates? And here I thought God was love.
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Doesn't God hate Sin?
And, I'm not sure what you mean about the rules not being important, but following them is.
God has unchanging principles that govern our lives and this world. The rules are based on those principles, but rules change over time - principles don't. That's why if someone understands the underlying principles in the Bible, they won't need rules!
1 Corinthians 10:23
All things are lawful for me, but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me, but not all things edify. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 2:18 pm |
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| SisterofZion wrote: | | See, I think a lot of times God gives us certain rules not because the rules are nessisarily the most important thing, but because obeying them is. |
I basically agree with Mikalee.
Also, God does not make rules just for grins. He doesn't make rules just to see if we obey them. We are not animal jumping through hoops for an audience.
There is a specific reason for the law. And that reason is based on the principle. The law helps us walk closer to God. |
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::shakes head:: I don't believe that. I will do whatever God asks of me, whatever his reasoning may be. One thing he asked, through our prophet, is that women only wear one pair of earrings. That isn't such an important rule for the gospel and spiritual growth, but we show our willingness to obey by doing as he askes. It's a faith thing.
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